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A singularity of stupid
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Ubiquitous
2006-07-25 11:56:16 UTC
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This letter to the editor appeared in Saturday's New York Times (second
letter):

It's clear that you see Hezbollah as the leading
agent in the hostilities now raging in the Middle
East. But Hezbollah and Hamas were both formed in
response to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land.

If you call for a return of Israeli soldiers without
asking anything of the Israelis in return, for
example the release of children and women held in
Israeli prisons, then nothing will have been achieved.

Kathleen Hill
New York, July 21, 2006

This can't be for real. Obviously someone is holding a competition to see
who can get the most ridiculous letter published in the Times. Even the
Times editors must know that Hezbollah is a Lebanese Shiite organization,
which has nothing to do with "Israeli occupation of Palestinian land."

More important, the idea that "nothing will have been achieved" unless
Israel rewards Hamas's and Hezbollah's war crimes is too ludicrous to
take seriously. Someone at the Times has fallen for a prank.
--
It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which the
liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn our
military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad for
them, it's failing.
The Last Viking
2006-07-25 13:37:49 UTC
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A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Ubiquitous wrote:
:> This letter to the editor appeared in Saturday's New York Times (second
:> letter):

:> More important, the idea that "nothing will have been achieved" unless
:> Israel rewards Hamas's and Hezbollah's war crimes is too ludicrous to
:> take seriously. Someone at the Times has fallen for a prank.

I think that the problem here is the failure to understand the complexity
of the situation. This, and the constant use and manipulation of the media
has lead to a situation where both sides tries to portray themselves as
the righteous, or more so, the victims. I think that anyone pointing their
fingers, taking a side will find themselves on the wrong side of a moral
dilemma. For some, the fact that the wrong doings are, one one side,
performed by an elected government, while on the other, by an
organization, might justify their beliefs. Other points at one side's
right to defend themselves. Either is, in my opinion, stranding on my view
that the real problem is, Israel doesn't want peace, whilst the
Palistinians are unable to create peace.

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Genaro
2006-08-18 00:00:58 UTC
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Post by The Last Viking
:> This letter to the editor appeared in Saturday's New York Times
:> More important, the idea that "nothing will have been achieved"
:> unless Israel rewards Hamas's and Hezbollah's war crimes is too
:> ludicrous to take seriously. Someone at the Times has fallen for a
:> prank.
I think that the problem here is the failure to understand the
complexity of the situation. This, and the constant use and
manipulation of the media has lead to a situation where both sides
tries to portray themselves as the righteous, or more so, the victims.
I think that anyone pointing their fingers, taking a side will find
themselves on the wrong side of a moral dilemma. For some, the fact
that the wrong doings are, one one side, performed by an elected
government, while on the other, by an organization, might justify
their beliefs. Other points at one side's right to defend themselves.
Either is, in my opinion, stranding on my view that the real problem
is, Israel doesn't want peace, whilst the Palistinians are unable to
create peace.
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It's rather difficult to create peace when your leadership, as in the
case of the Palestinians, is comprised of militants. The Lebanese
leadership consists partly of Hezbollah which has one foot planted in
democracy and the other in terrorist activity. Israel maintains a
democracy and an armed force which moves at the orders of the democratic
leadership.
Last month Hezbollah moved across the Israeli border killing and
kidnapping Israeli soldiers. The Lebanese leadership didn't know about
Hezbollah's plans to attack. Israel responded.
Hamas kidnapped an Israeli soldier. Israel responded. Put simply and
briefly, doesn't this pretty much size up the causes of the latest 34 day
war between Hamas, Hezbollah, and Israel?
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two7sclash
2006-07-26 08:17:10 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
This letter to the editor appeared in Saturday's New York Times (second
It's clear that you see Hezbollah as the leading
agent in the hostilities now raging in the Middle
East. But Hezbollah and Hamas were both formed in
response to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land.
If you call for a return of Israeli soldiers without
asking anything of the Israelis in return, for
example the release of children and women held in
Israeli prisons, then nothing will have been achieved.
Kathleen Hill
New York, July 21, 2006
This can't be for real. Obviously someone is holding a competition to see
who can get the most ridiculous letter published in the Times. Even the
Times editors must know that Hezbollah is a Lebanese Shiite organization,
which has nothing to do with "Israeli occupation of Palestinian land."
More important, the idea that "nothing will have been achieved" unless
Israel rewards Hamas's and Hezbollah's war crimes is too ludicrous to
take seriously. Someone at the Times has fallen for a prank.
--
It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which the
liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn our
military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad for
them, it's failing.
I had hezbollah and hamas for my thanksgiving dinner. Somebody kidnapped
the can-shaped-cranberry- sauce.
z
2006-07-26 14:58:25 UTC
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Post by two7sclash
I had hezbollah and hamas for my thanksgiving dinner. Somebody kidnapped
the can-shaped-cranberry- sauce.
Palestinian joke:
"What do you mean we elected Hamas and not Fatah? I thought I was
ordering hummus instead of feta!"
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2006-07-27 13:24:26 UTC
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Obviously someone is holding a competition to see who can get the most
ridiculous letter published in the Times. Even the Times editors must
know that Hezbollah is a Lebanese Shiite organization, which has nothing
to do with "Israeli occupation of Palestinian land."
More important, the idea that "nothing will have been achieved" unless
Israel rewards Hamas's and Hezbollah's war crimes is too ludicrous to
take seriously. Someone at the Times has fallen for a prank.
--
It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which the
liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn our
military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad for
them, it's failing.
OK, now we're sure that, as we speculated Monday, someone is holding a
competition to see who can get the most ridiculous letter published in the
New York Times. Check out the fourth letter at the link atop this piece:

"For 50 years, the great powers have failed to enforce agreements in the
Middle East, where the parties seem unable to keep any agreement. The
powers should have done so by force if necessary.

In that context, the invasion of Iraq was an expensive and disastrous
diversion. Look at the cost and sacrifice involved. "Nation-building"
has not worked. In fact, it seems to have made the problem of terrorism
worse.

A cease-fire in Lebanon would be a step toward establishing the stability
that is necessary for the development of national cohesion and indeed
democracy.

John Wilson
New York, July 25, 2006 "

So according to Wilson, "great powers" should "enforce agreements" "by force
if necessary"--except when they actually do, as in the case of Iraq.
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